If you think of the waif movement, Calvin [Klein] started it. I think we've lived with that mindset for quite a while, and I was very intimidated by changing that because that was such an association with the house. It was a very conscious effort to change in the past two years, to give it a twist, to make contact with the customer, because in reality, no 16-year-olds are buying my clothes — she's 45. I love to think my customer is 45 because that's the woman I want to dress. It's the moment when a women is so comfortable with herself. That was the intent, to bring models who were wonderful then and are still incredible now.

”He said at the Cooper-Hewitt museum in New York as part of the “Voices in American Fashion” panel.